Tuesday, October 6, 2009

Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Modern Greeks do not have blonde hair. Are Modern Greeks different peoples to Ancient Greeks? Did Aleksander come from a different tribe to the Greeks?



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

First of all, Alexander was NOT Greek, he was Macedonian. And second of all, haven't you heard about ethnogenesis? Of course Modern Greeks are not the same as Ancient ones... They are mixture of many nations, especially since they live around sea



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Beside the fact that provocative questions are very clear lets give some real facts Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Greeks, like Italians, Spaniards, and southern French are Caucasian/Mediterranean type which means that their color can be from fair blond till dark brunete. And yes there are plenty of Greeks who are blond! Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Some users have never seen any Greek and they post questions that only exist to provoke.



Check some sites which you will find some pictures of the Greeks so to understand how they look. Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

http://www.acemodels.gr/models...



http://www.acemodels.gr/modelp...



http://www.geocities.com/greek... Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

As for Alexander the Great he was pure Greek since he was from AUTHENTIC MACEDONIA OF GREECE, the famous Greek kingdom of Macedonia or Macedon. (authentic Macedonia is in Greece and is sometimes referred as Greek-Macedonia) Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

He was not from the modern republic of (Slavic/Albanian)-Macedonia which has no relation with ancient Macedonia.



By the way check to see how Alexander really looked : Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I... Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

(Ancient (Greek)Macedonians were part of a group of Greek tribes that were called Dorians.)



Alexander was not only Greek but he also had a divine and heroic line of family.



From his father side (Philip of Macedon) he claimed descent from Hercules. Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Philip was a descendant of the Argead Dynasty {the royal family of authentic Macedonia (Greek-Macedonia)}. The Argeads originated from the southern Greek city state of Argos and they had established the Greek kingdom of Macedonia in 808BC. Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

The Argeads 鈥揳nd thus Philip and Alexander- claim descent from the famous Greek hero Hercules and they had blood ties with the Spartans. Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

(The mother of Philip 鈥揈urydice- was a princess from the Greek royal house of Lyncestes (a small Greek kingdom in the northern Greek Macedonia) and was a descendant of the Beachhead dynasty of the northern Greek city of Corinth.) Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

The mother of Alexander was Olympias a princess from the ancient Greek kingdom of Epirus. Her family 鈥搕he royal house of Epirus- claim descend from Neoptolemus, son of the most heroic Achilles. Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Therefore Alexander was a Greek not only by blood descent but also by Heroic and even Devine Greek descent. (The royal emblem of the Greek Royal house of Macedonia was the club of Hercules!)



( Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

As for the ancient Macedonians it is a well established fact by historians that they were a typical Greek tribe.)



Besides his pure Greek descent Alexander was also tutored by Aristotle. Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Under his years of studding philosophy, Alexander became a follower of pan-Hellenism, a new trend in Greece which supported the unification of all the Greek states in one powerful Greek empire that would attack and destroy Persia! Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Further more Alexander was convinced that he should spread Greek culture and language throughout the known world!



Alexander (and Philip) for the first time in history manage to unite all the Greek states! Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

It was a gigantic task and it took a lot of years of alliances and war.



Finally Philip and later Alexander were called 鈥淕eneral Emperor鈥?of all the Greeks.



A title that no Greek would manage to achieve again! Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Alexander鈥檚 campaign was an epic campaign of the Greek expansion.



The Greek language and culture became international and hundreds of Greek cities were build through out Asia. (Most famous was the imperial Alexandria in Egypt. The model Greek city) Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Alexander was also responsible for the creation of a New Greek language the famous 鈥淜oine鈥?(or 鈥淏iblical Greek鈥?or 鈥淎lexander鈥檚 Greek鈥?. Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Koine Greek was a composition of the several Greek dialects (such as attic, Ionian, (Greek)Macedonian etc) and was spread through out Alexander鈥檚 empire. Greek became international for at list 600 years. Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

And a few quotes from ancient sources:



"You ought to have remembered that you are not the attendant of and adviser of Cambyses or Xerxes, but of Philip's son, a man with the blood of Heracles and Aeacus in his veins, Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

a man whose forefathers came from Argos to Macedonia, where they long ruled not by force, but by law."



(Arrian 4.11) Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

"Well, here we are in a foreign land; and if for that reason we must think foreign thoughts, yet I beg you, Alexander, to remember Greece; it was for her sake alone, that you might add Asia to her empire, that you undertook this campaign. Consider this too: Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

when you are home again, do you really propose to force the Greeks, who love their liberty more than anyone else in the world, to prostrate themselves before you?"



(Arrian 4.11) Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

"But Alexander said: `If I were not Alexandros, I should be Diogenes'; that is to say: `If it were not my purpose to combine barbarian things with things GREEK, to traverse and civilize every continent, Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

to search out the uttermost parts of land and sea, to push the bounds of Macedonia to the farthest Ocean, and to disseminate and shower the blessings of the GREEK JUSTICE and peace over every nation, Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

I should not be content to sit quietly in the luxury of idle power, but I should emulate the frugality of Diogenes. But as things are, forgive me Diogenes, Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

that I imitate Herakles, and emulate Perseus, and follow in the footsteps of Dionysos, THE DIVINE AUTHOR AND PROGENITOR OF MY FAMILY , Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

AND DESIRE THAT VICTORIUS GREEKS SHOULD DANCE AGAIN IN INDIA and revive the memory of the Bacchic revels among the savage mountain tribes beyond the Kaukasos...' "



(Plutarchos, On the Fortune of Alexander, 332 a-b Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

As for the modern Slav-Macedonians they live in a country called FYROM (Slavic/Albanian-Macedonia).



That area was occupied by the Turks for nearly 700 years!!!(from about 13th century till 20th century) Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Longer than any area in the Balkans!!! That's why today they are the more mixed nation in the world and their country one of the most multinational!!! Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Frank said it... The sun was always shinning in Greece. But apparently not in your "Aleksender the Greak" mind. Report It



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

B/c Blond people are cool!!!!



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Greeks, like Italians, Spaniards, and southern French are Caucasian/Mediterranean type which means that their color can be from fair blond till dark brunete. And yes there are plenty of Greeks who are blond!



Some users have never seen any Greek and they post questions that only exist to provoke.



Check some sites which you will find some pictures of the Greeks so to understand how they look.



http://www.acemodels.gr/models.asp?cid=2...



http://www.acemodels.gr/modelpage.asp?id...



http://www.geocities.com/greek_race/gree...



As for Alexander the Great he was pure Greek since he was from AUTHENTIC MACEDONIA OF GREECE, the famous Greek kingdom of Macedonia or Macedon. (authentic Macedonia is in Greece and is sometimes referred as Greek-Macedonia)



He was not from the modern republic of (Slavic/Albanian)-Macedonia which has no relation with ancient Macedonia.



By the way check to see how Alexander really looked :



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Battl...



(Ancient (Greek)Macedonians were part of a group of Greek tribes that were called Dorians.)



Alexander was not only Greek but he also had a divine and heroic line of family.



From his father side (Philip of Macedon) he claimed descent from Hercules. Philip was a descendant of the Argead Dynasty {the royal family of authentic Macedonia (Greek-Macedonia)}. The Argeads originated from the southern Greek city state of Argos and they had established the Greek kingdom of Macedonia in 808BC.



The Argeads 鈥揳nd thus Philip and Alexander- claim descent from the famous Greek hero Hercules and they had blood ties with the Spartans. (The mother of Philip 鈥揈urydice- was a princess from the Greek royal house of Lyncestes (a small Greek kingdom in the northern Greek Macedonia) and was a descendant of the Beachhead dynasty of the northern Greek city of Corinth.)



The mother of Alexander was Olympias a princess from the ancient Greek kingdom of Epirus. Her family 鈥搕he royal house of Epirus- claim descend from Neoptolemus, son of the most heroic Achilles.



Therefore Alexander was a Greek not only by blood descent but also by Heroic and even Devine Greek descent. (The royal emblem of the Greek Royal house of Macedonia was the club of Hercules!)



(As for the ancient Macedonians it is a well established fact by historians that they were a typical Greek tribe.)



Besides his pure Greek descent Alexander was also tutored by Aristotle. Under his years of studding philosophy, Alexander became a follower of pan-Hellenism, a new trend in Greece which supported the unification of all the Greek states in one powerful Greek empire that would attack and destroy Persia! Further more Alexander was convinced that he should spread Greek culture and language throughout the known world!



Alexander (and Philip) for the first time in history manage to unite all the Greek states!



It was a gigantic task and it took a lot of years of alliances and war.



Finally Philip and later Alexander were called 鈥淕eneral Emperor鈥?of all the Greeks.



A title that no Greek would manage to achieve again!



Alexander鈥檚 campaign was an epic campaign of the Greek expansion.



The Greek language and culture became international and hundreds of Greek cities were build through out Asia. (Most famous was the imperial Alexandria in Egypt. The model Greek city)



Alexander was also responsible for the creation of a New Greek language the famous 鈥淜oine鈥?(or 鈥淏iblical Greek鈥?or 鈥淎lexander鈥檚 Greek鈥?. Koine Greek was a composition of the several Greek dialects (such as attic, Ionian, (Greek)Macedonian etc) and was spread through out Alexander鈥檚 empire. Greek became international for at list 600 years.



The gospels were written in Alexander鈥檚 Greek language and they were very easily spread through out the Greek world.



But the most important was the fact that Alexander didn鈥檛 force the Greek culture in the areas he conquered. He instead fused Greek culture with Asian elements creating a New Greek culture called 鈥淗ellenistic鈥?



And a few quotes from ancient sources:



"There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service -- but how different is theirs cause from ours ! They will be fighting for pay--- and not much of it at that; we on the contrary shall fight for Greece, and our hearts will be in it. As for our foreign troops ---Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians, Agrianes --- they are the best and stoutest soldiers of Europe, and they will find as their opponents the slackest and softest of the tribes of Asia."



(Arrian, 11.7)



"You ought to have remembered that you are not the attendant of and adviser of Cambyses or Xerxes, but of Philip's son, a man with the blood of Heracles and Aeacus in his veins, a man whose forefathers came from Argos to Macedonia, where they long ruled not by force, but by law."



(Arrian 4.11)



"Well, here we are in a foreign land; and if for that reason we must think foreign thoughts, yet I beg you, Alexander, to remember Greece; it was for her sake alone, that you might add Asia to her empire, that you undertook this campaign. Consider this too: when you are home again, do you really propose to force the Greeks, who love their liberty more than anyone else in the world, to prostrate themselves before you?"



(Arrian 4.11)



"But Alexander said: `If I were not Alexandros, I should be Diogenes'; that is to say: `If it were not my purpose to combine barbarian things with things GREEK, to traverse and civilize every continent, to search out the uttermost parts of land and sea, to push the bounds of Macedonia to the farthest Ocean, and to disseminate and shower the blessings of the GREEK JUSTICE and peace over every nation, I should not be content to sit quietly in the luxury of idle power, but I should emulate the frugality of Diogenes. But as things are, forgive me Diogenes, that I imitate Herakles, and emulate Perseus, and follow in the footsteps of Dionysos, THE DIVINE AUTHOR AND PROGENITOR OF MY FAMILY , AND DESIRE THAT VICTORIUS GREEKS SHOULD DANCE AGAIN IN INDIA and revive the memory of the Bacchic revels among the savage mountain tribes beyond the Kaukasos...' "



(Plutarchos, On the Fortune of Alexander, 332 a-b)



Check also to see how the modern



Slav-macedonians look!! completly different than the original Greek-Macedonians



http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1702/...



(the person that asks the question should not lie!! She/he is invited to come to Greece and start llok around! She/he would be suprised to see how many Greeks are blond! The asker also should know that we know that she/he is a troll so dont humor us!)



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

I know very well that you are only trying to prove the pathetic theory that the "ancient Macedonians were blonde, the modern Greeks are dark, therefore the ancient Macedonians were not Greeks"



Obviously you can not go any deeper than hair color but still you deserve an answer based on historical facts.



1. There were ancient Greeks with dark hair and there were ancient Greeks with blonde hair.



2. There were ancient Macedonians with dark and blonde hair.



3. When we talk about the blonde Greeks through history we NEVER mean blonde as Scandinavians. We have historical resources from the Byzantine times expressing the admiration and the fear of the Byzantines for the way those blonde viking warriors were looking, simply because that was the first time to see original northern blonde people. All the others until that time were more like the blonde Greeks today.



4. There are many blonde Greeks today. The percentage is bigger than the one you write but since we don鈥檛 have a percentage of the blonde Greeks in ancient times we cant compare them.



5. Take a good look at Alexander鈥檚 face, blonde or not that's a Greek face. That鈥檚 not an African, an Arabian, a Viking, a Slavic or a Germanic face.



Alexander the Great was Greek, the Ancient Macedonians were Greek. That鈥檚 history and even if every nation on earth calls you Macedonians we will never let it go.



Edit : I had been trying to find a single connection of the language that it's being used today by the people of the Former Republic of Vardar with the language that the ancient Macedonians were using. I couldnt find anything.



I also tried to connect Former Republic's language with the language or the Illyrians, the Thracians and other peoples of that time that lived near the regions of the historical Macedonia. Again, nothing, no connections at all.



It's seems that the slavic language that you people speak (90% Bulgarian) appears south of the river Danube in the Balkans 1000 years after Alexander's death. Please give me any kind of information that you have on this issue.



Edit: His name in english is Alexander and his name in greek is 螒螞螘螢螒螡螖巍螣危. At least try to get that right !



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

WOWWW, after the answer from ragzeus everything else seems insignificant to add.



If I may add with my little and humble voice the meaning of Alexanders and Philip's names,(since I see a little provocation again in your question trying to hint that Alexander wasn't Greek):



The name Alexandros is Greek. It consists of Alex=defender and andros=man



So his name itself says it all: Alexander=defender of men!



What more Greek name you expect from a Greek king!!!



Also Philippos is Greek: Phil=friend Ippos=horse



Philippos=friend of horses



No matter how you pronounce it "Aleksender" or "Aleksander" or whatever your people do, it won't make him more of a Slav and less of a Greek that he was!



(unless you mean that Greeks and Alexander also occupied your area...But then is a different discussion all together :)



For the record,in my family my sister and father have blond hair and blue eyes but me and my mother have dark hair w brown eyes. And we are all Greeks!



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Very interesting question!!Thank you for asking. Here is your answer:(ovcischka this is for you too, watch it)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY-yJTDcO...



Enjoy:)



NOTE: This is the ONLY video I approve of from that site



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

What do you have against blonde hair???



...and why is it so important what color of hair he had?!?



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

To start with, you first need to speak "Engliz"...



Its "Alexander the Great". Not Aleksender, Alexeij, Alexandrof, Shasha or whatever the slavic heck it comes in your futile mind...



You should also know (which you don't) that the "blond theory" was first initiated by Hitler in Nazi Germany in an attempt to explain why the barbarian Nazis were not looking like the ancient Greeks which he was so desperate to prove.



Today, in all academic institutes, these parallels are often used as a joke. A Nazi joke. As in all countries bordering with Greece, people have much darker hair than...Norway. We now know why and we know how. Some call it "sun exposure". And sun was always shinning in Greece. But apparently not in your "Aleksender the Greak" mind.



Get a life...



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

no00o0.. i am Greek and i have naturally blonde hair with hazel/green eyes!! my mom and my sister have both blonde hair like me, and my dad is white with brown hair and hazel eyes.. and no the Greeks aint a different than the ancients. DNA tests proved there are the same..so cheers! =]



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

all important people were said to have blond hair so that they would enhnce their beuty...as you mention, blond hair is very rare in Greece, so if someone had it they thought he was extraordinarily beatiful...Homer also mentions in the Iliad that Helen and Menelaos had blond hair...this is something that continues in greek traditional poetry...



if you notice in northen civilisations, when they want to describe someone beatiful, they say they have dark hair, as northen people are usually blond and dark hair is unusual...



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

Maybe if you asked this in science section, you could get the accurate answer.



What I know is that rules about genes of different people aren't absolute, they are relative.



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

I seem to think that A the Great was a Macedonian Greek. Why do you think he was a Greak?



Why did Aleksender the Greak have blonde hair?

genetics maybe??

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